10 Minutes of Tennis: Mental Health :: How can the social player learn from the struggles of the pros?

<h2>Episode #15 Season 25: Shaun Boyce &amp; Justin Yeo</h2><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Tennis is about more than just technique and physical ability. A large portion of performance has to do with the mental game. Even the best of the best deal with self-doubt, pressure, and momentum shifts.</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent"><em>But what does that mean for social and league players? Can they use the same mental strategies as the pros?</em></strong></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">In this episode of </span><strong style="background-color: transparent"><em>10 Minutes of Tennis</em></strong><span style="background-color: transparent">, we welcome our guest </span><strong style="background-color: transparent">Justin Yeo</strong><span style="background-color: transparent"> onto the show—a world-renowned tennis coach—to discuss the psychology of the sport. We talk about how players of all experience levels can learn to improve their mental focus, emotion management, and overall game.</span></p><h2><span style="background-color: transparent">About Justin Yeo</span></h2><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Justin Yeo is a tennis coach who has decades of experience in tennis. He’s an Australian tennis coach who later expanded his existence to </span><strong style="background-color: transparent">Puerto Rico</strong><span style="background-color: transparent">. Justin changed my players’ playing style by improving their mental resilience and stability. His coaching philosophy corley focused on improving focus, handling pressure, and improving the controlling power during the matches. And his innovative approach has changed many players’ smashing style on the court.</span></p><h2><span style="background-color: transparent">Key Discussion Points of the Episode</span></h2><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Why Even Pro Players Struggle with the Mental Game</span></h3><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Even if they’re the best in the world, professional players still aren’t immune to doubt and pressure. Some have been honing their skills since the age of four, committing their lives to the game. When millions are watching and rankings are on the line, the weight of expectation can be crushing.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Few top athletes don’t wrestle with internal demons such as self-doubt, negativity, the pressures of life, etc. Justin explains how they deal with these challenges and what recreational players can take away from their mental strategies.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">How Weekend Players Can Strengthen Their Mental Game</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Many amateurs think mental training is only for the pros. But the reality is that mindset matters at every level. Players in the league often battle issues with nerves and anger in-game. The same mental strategies that allow pros to keep their cool can also help social players play to their potential. Justin shares practical strategies for focusing, recovering from failure, and containing the threats of emotions in high-pressure scenarios.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">The Science of Attention Span in Tennis</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Every tennis player knows what it feels like when everything clicks — time slows down, each shot flows like a Panavision slow-motion sequence. But sustaining that kind of focus can be hard.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Justin analyzes attention span along three critical components -</span></p><ul><li><strong style="background-color: transparent">Intensity</strong><span style="background-color: transparent"> – To what degree are you engaged? Do you have it locked in, or are you just dipping your mind in between points?</span></li><li><strong style="background-color: transparent">Size</strong><span style="background-color: transparent"> – How long can you remain mentally acute before distractions take over?</span></li><li><strong style="background-color: transparent">Movement </strong><span style="background-color: transparent">– How does physical activity affect your ability to stay alert?</span></li></ul><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Pro players use a structured routine, body language, and movement patterns to stay focused. Justin shares how average players can do exactly that.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Mind Drifting – Why It Happens and How to Regain Control</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Tennis requires total presence but distractions abound. A player could become frustrated by a missed shot, angry at their opponent, or even begin daydreaming about dinner.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">When the mind wanders, we underperform. Justin details how we can refocus the attention on the game, prevent ourselves from going off on emotional tangents and remain present, even after a setback.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">The Power of External Thinking in High-Stakes Moments</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Most players are emotionally responsive to their own mistakes. They say, “I can’t believe I missed that shot” or “I’m playing so badly today.” This is internal thinking — and if done for too long, it leads to frustration.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">External thinking is a different story. Rather than lament mistakes, players focus on solutions — making tactical adjustments, identifying their opponent’s weaknesses and making good decisions in the face of pressure.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Justin tells me how going from an internal mindset to an external word can change a player’s approach to competition.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Momentum Swings – The Secret to Staying in Control</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">One big point can be exhilarating, but most players find it hard to maintain momentum. A rush of adrenaline following a key rally can lead to a performance drop if not managed correctly.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Justin explains why this is the case and how one can avoid the ebbs and flows of emotion dictating the terms of the match. He shares advice on how to steady nerves, focus and ride momentum swings like a pro.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">The Overlooked Connection Between Physical Conditioning and Mental Strength</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">When the body is tired, your mind has taken a hit. That’s no accident, players who can’t keep their physical energy up tend to have a more difficult time controlling their emotions in longer contests.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Justin emphasizes the importance of sleep, hydration, and the right physical training for a strong mental game. He also explains how basic recovery techniques can keep players sharp the whole way through.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Why Keeping a Tennis Journal Can Transform Your Game</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Want to improve faster? Start writing things down.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Keeping a journal post-matches also allows players to find patterns, identify decision making trends, and come up with better tweaking strategies. Justin explains how a simple performance journal can expose hidden weaknesses and facilitate faster improvement.</span></p><h2><span style="background-color: transparent">Justin's Quick Tips on Mental Health</span></h2><p><span style="background-color: transparent">For&nbsp; improving mental health, Justin has shared some quick tips that are easy to follow and can significantly enhance your playing attitude. Take a look-</span></p><ol><li><span style="background-color: transparent">Understand the Attention Span</span></li><li><span style="background-color: transparent">Control Mind Drift</span></li><li><span style="background-color: transparent">Be Mindful of Internal vs External Thinking</span></li><li><span style="background-color: transparent">Control Your Breathing</span></li><li><span style="background-color: transparent">Move Negative Thoughts to Positive Thoughts</span></li><li><span style="background-color: transparent">Be Wary of Adrenaline</span></li><li><span style="background-color: transparent">Manage Your Time Between Points</span></li><li><span style="background-color: transparent">Ride the Momentum Swings Well</span></li><li><span style="background-color: transparent">Prepare Properly</span></li></ol><h2><span style="background-color: transparent">Be Our Next Guest</span></h2><p><span style="background-color: transparent">At GoTennis! podcast, we want more guests to bring fresh perspectives and spread them among the tennis community. 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And today is 10 minutes of tennis with World renowned tennis coach Australian in Puerto Rico,

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who I believe might be in Naples or somewhere.

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He's, you never know people.

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You never really know where Justin is.

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But right now we are continuing our mental health conversation.

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And this one is as we watch, this question is as we watch the mental health struggles of

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these superheroes, of these athletes that are out there performing and running their businesses,

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which is a thing we forget sometimes.

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They really struggle to keep up.

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Sometimes we forget these are 19 year olds that are top 10 in the world trying to figure

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out just how to run a business.

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But Justin, my question is, can we the social player?

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I guess you and I are considered industry coach types.

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But can the social player, the weekend player, the league player, what do we get from this?

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Yeah, I think with this question, I thought I would just write down a whole bunch of things

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that would get to help people understand, I guess the worst fundamentals are the things

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that the professionals are going through that you could use because at the end of the day

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we're all playing tennis.

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So whether they're playing at 3-0 or 4-5 or 5-0, they're still playing another player

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up the other end that goes through the same level of challenges at the same game.

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So I always try to make people realize we're all playing at a certain level, but we all

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go through the same mental state.

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The difference between obviously the professional to what we do is we still leave the court and

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go back to work and go do what we got to do.

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That is their job.

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So some of them too, what we've got to understand have been sacrificing a lot of things since

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the age of 4-5 and they've only known one thing and they're hitting very tennis balls to make

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a career out of it.

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So they've got a lot of invested interest, they've had a lot of other people behind them

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than the regular Joe.

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But that doesn't take away from the regular Joe who's still practice a lot, so wants to keep

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improving 3-5 to 4-0, 4-0 to 4-5.

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So I'm going to give you a quick one, so I'm going to run through in real five.

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Understanding attention span.

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If you want to learn a little bit more about it, you can go on Google, there's a ton of

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stuff you can learn on it.

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I'm going to give you a three main one, intensity, size and movement.

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Intensity is basically meaning what's the intensity of my attention span?

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Like how high am I, how pumped am I, how focused am I?

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Size is the length of time I've been keeping my attention span because we go in weights and

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we try to learn how we can increase the size.

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And I'll talk about that in a minute.

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Movement.

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Our attention span relies on physical movement.

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So you see the players jump up and down and some players are really quattent slow.

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But you can really tell how we can help our attention span by three main things like that.

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So that's it.

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I think for a lot of people they don't understand attention span and then by not understanding

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the core of where the mental focus is, it's really hard because you're looking for all these

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elements without actually understanding really what attention span is all about.

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Mind drifting and how to manage it.

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So basically trying to come up with tricks to identify one, your drifting meaning you're

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thinking about the bikini girl walking in the back of the court versus focusing on

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the next point and bikini girls just a little exaggerated.

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But at the end of the day everyone knows what I'm talking about.

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Their mind comes up the court versus being on the court.

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Internal versus external.

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You've all heard me talk about this a ton.

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When you walk off the baseline you're thinking that forehand sucked, I sucked.

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What's wrong with me today?

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But I'm a blab that's internal.

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External is looking back under the court and saying, this is the tactic I'm going to do.

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This is the game plan my coach came up with or this is what I thought about at the change

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of end on how to beat my person tactically and that's how to think externally which makes

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you go more into I would say good momentum, good focus versus internal focus.

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And that makes me think of identifying with a player.

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So we watch these players on television, the men, the women, the mixed doubles, we watch

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it all and we look at that one player and say, oh that guy reminds me of me.

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Or kind of I picture myself like them and then I picture a ruble of type who is always fighting

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with himself and everybody knows a friend that might have that same kind of internal struggle

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all the time because it isn't necessarily that's an outward representation of the internal

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struggle and those are the kind of things we can see and go, oh man, do I look like that

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on court?

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I don't know that that's a good example for my wife and kids, right?

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Yeah, I mean we can go back, we call it the go to Federer.

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I mean Federer at the start was smashing rackets and was carrying on and he learned to find

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the silent part that we all adored and that we all appreciated and that we all looked

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up to and admired.

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But at the start, late junior years and even early professional years, he had a real demon

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and he learned to quiet that demon down but demons can be raised a lot mentally and emotionally

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from other things that are written down here which is physical conditioning.

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If you're not as good as in shape or you're not as fit as you need to be the other guy

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better, as your physical condition comes down, your emotion comes up higher which changes

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your mental state as well.

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So be aware of your physical conditioning, that's really important, change events, drink

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in water, having a snack, change time between points.

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If you rush from one point to the next point, you haven't given yourself a chance to reduce

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the heart rate and increase to improve the breathing, sleep and recovery.

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You haven't slept well, you haven't done a few good sleep nights, that's going to be

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a big one that's going to change your mental state when you go to play.

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So negative to positive thoughts, you have to do this many a times in play development

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which you could do it in adult stuff as well and that is what's the same bad word that

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keep coming up and find what positive change those words so that when they come up, you've

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written down what can be changed and what information will fix that negative.

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I like that a lot because it makes me think of the mental health benefits of tennis.

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Now it isn't just of tennis by virtue but it's of the fact that I want to be a good tennis

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player and therefore I'm going to do these things which are going to help me be a better

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tennis player and all of those things are good for my longevity, they're good for my health,

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they're good for my mental health.

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If I really want to be a great, I don't know what poker player, maybe we don't get the

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same health benefits from that, from preparing for something else I guess is what I'm trying

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to come up with because in this case you're describing good healthy habits that are a result

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of preparing for my hobby and that's really a great thing.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Even to the things like you can be, I mean, Naples right now, right?

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95% of the population here can drive very fast, having got very good attention span and they're

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all over the place.

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So what do I have to do?

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Hey, you're going to take me 30 seconds to another two or three minutes to get somewhere.

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That's it.

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Wait, can I sacrifice two, three minutes?

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Yes.

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So why would I create stress the whole time on the road?

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Same thing when you're on the court.

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Why rush?

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Why keep pushing?

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Why try to?

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People, a lot of juniors try to rush things to go through the pain when actually they need

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to reflect and go through it and be up the other end.

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And I am Roger Federer.

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I am Roger Federer.

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I am Roger Federer.

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I am Roger Federer.

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Yeah.

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And Ruben, Ruben, is a good example because he is very high in intensity.

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We don't know he's background.

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We don't know how he was raised.

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We don't know all that stuff.

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He obviously has a lot underneath and he's going to learn to have to keep channeling and

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keep channeling it.

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This has to reason why sometimes people get injured as well because they keep pushing and

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keep pushing and the mind can control and push the body.

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But then if we push it too far, something breaks.

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We get to listen.

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Yeah.

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Mentally, it's a big thing.

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So trying to go back to what you are saying, what the average player or what the amateur

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player can learn, there are things like adrenaline.

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Watch your pump ups because if your adrenaline goes too high, the first thing your body is going

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to do is shut down.

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The heart rate comes down.

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The mind says straight away, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

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really high."

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So now I am going to bring you all down.

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So you might win one big point, come out like Balmau, like Nadal, and then the next

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two points you lose, and you're like, "What happened to my momentum?"

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You got nothing left.

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My adrenaline was so high that my mind said, "Hey, bring everything down to catch up."

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I have tons of tests.

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My momentum swings, watch them, manage them, figure out what they do, what they don't

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do.

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And what I mean by that is, journalize after a match, what works and what don't work,

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journalize, journalize, and what you do is once you start reading back, you'll start

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to realize where the patterns are of what you do to manage momentum or what you do to feel

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positive to get a win.

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And if you keep writing them down, even if it starts writing down all your failures, because

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all the negatives, you'll start to understand patterns on how to change those.

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So I would say journalize is really important to understand every single match adds up.

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There are patterns in it.

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I can be the Tony Robbins right now.

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It happens in everything.

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Yeah, right?

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And I was going to say, it sounds like we can go on forever.

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Maybe we'll do 10 more minutes next week on the same thing.

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But in this case, it really sounds like I am running a little business, the business of

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my hobby, in this case.

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Because if I'm going to write down the notes from my meeting notes and what happened and

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what didn't happen, because I want to improve, all of it just sounds like I'm getting really

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good at my hobby.

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And the benefit here is the mental health benefits of the actions that we take to improve and

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be better at what we do.

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Just in word of time, we will come back to it if we need to.

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I appreciate it.

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This has been 10 minutes of tennis with Justin Yo.

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Thank you, sir.

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We'll see you next week.

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