Episode#:13 Shaun Boyce and Bobby Schindler

ATP: Soul Insole wants to save our soles

Shaun and Bobby talk to Laina Gossman of Soul Insole. Soul Insole foot rehabilitation medical products are the #1 choice by top Athletic Therapists and Medical Practitioners worldwide. They provide visiable results and 100% customer satisfaction guarantee. There simply isnโ€™t a better performing option.

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Transcript
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Welcome to the Atlanta tennis podcast.

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Every episode is titled, "It's Starts with Tennis and Goes From There."

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We talk with coaches, club managers, industry business professionals, technology experts,

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and anyone else we find interesting.

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We want to have a conversation as long as it starts with tennis.

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Hey, hey, this is Sean with the Atlanta tennis podcast.

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And today, Bobby and I talk to Lena Grossman, who is the founder and CEO of Soul in Soul.

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Lena has studied conneciology and biomechanics, and she has over 18 years of experience

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in foot care.

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Our company, Soul in Soul, Designs unique, high quality, affordable solutions for foot health.

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Let us know what you think of our conversation.

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Who are you and tell us about Soul in Soul?

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My name is Lena and I'm the founder of Soul in Soul.

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We do foot care.

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So I'm one of the main designers for all of our orthotics.

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We do arch support that help with various foot problems such as over-pronation, planet crash

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eitis, over-soupination, metatarsalja.

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So we make different parts and pieces that people can use to offload pressure and redistribute

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the pressure.

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And basically take foot pain away so that you can get back to doing the things you love.

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Did we lose Sean?

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I'm sorry.

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I just say that from what a tennis player loves to hear, which is take that soreness or take

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that pain away from my feet.

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To start about you, how did you, what's your background?

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How did you get into offering orthotics to our 10th players?

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So my story started when I was about 17 years old.

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I just needed a job and I interviewed at this shoe boutique in my neighborhood.

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I was supposed to just be selling shoes.

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And somehow I got the job.

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At that point in time, I only had three pairs of shoes.

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I had 10 of shoes, a pair of foot plots and one pair of dress shoes.

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And I put those on and I went to the interview and somehow landed that job at 17 years

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old.

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It turned out that my boss was the biomechanist.

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And he was kind of like a mad scientist, a sort of person.

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He would bring people from walking with canes to walking again without pain.

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It was a lot of miracles that I was seeing.

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But he would have a lot of orthotics just piling up in the back that needed to be made.

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And I got to the point where I walked up to him and I said, "Hey, I see you're a little

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behind."

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And I know I'm a girl, but I don't mind getting my hands dirty and maybe preparing things

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for you so that you can work on the complex stuff.

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And I'll just get things ready for you so that you can speed this stuff.

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And he said, "Sure, y'all, me teach you."

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And so that's where it started.

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And I ended up working under him for seven years.

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I got really interested in helping people with their foot problems.

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When you help people with their foot problems, you really help give them their life back.

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And so I switched my major in school.

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And I studied biomechanics as well and communityology.

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And I was hand-making custom orthotics out of that store.

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Eventually the store closed and he and I both were working out of our garages.

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And I came up with some ideas that I was doing a lot for people.

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And the main one was the basic form for the shoe bubble, which is what our company is most

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well known for.

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It's the first product that we launched.

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I ended up getting a patent for it and getting it manufactured.

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It was many years of work to get that done.

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So I launched on Kickstarter and the company is grown from there to having many products that

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help a wider variety of foot ailments.

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And if I go back to that first product, you blow right by it.

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You say, "We invented a shoe level.

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What is that?"

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I don't know what that is.

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So the shoe bubble is a micro sized orthotic.

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It's very unique.

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It's the first orthotics go full length.

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They go from under your heel to your toes.

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Or they'll be partial lengths if they go from under your heel to under your forehead.

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They can help with orthotics.

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Can help with issues such as collapsing arches.

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But one of the main issues with these full length and partial length in the list is that they

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take up too much space in your shoes.

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So a lot of times you'll have to get a shoe that's a size bigger just to fit your

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orthotic or it just changes the way the shoe fits so that you've got a longer shoe than you

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need to just to fit the width.

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Or your heel is raised up in the heel of the shoe so that the heel cut doesn't grip your

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heel as well and your heel will just start flopping in and out of the shoe.

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The shoe bubble is different because it starts after the heel and it stops before the

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ball of the foot.

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So you've got arch support.

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It's got a rocker sort of shape to it to drop off before the heel in the forehead.

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So in doing so it's somewhat suspending the bones to offload pressure and redistribute that

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pressure more evenly across the foot without taking up a bunch of space in your shoe or

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changing the way your shoe fits.

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Okay, so there's a uniqueness here that I was working hard to understand and have been going

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through it with my wife and we've been talking about it and she's got some questions about

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runners knee that will get to in a second.

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But the smaller parts are unique to sole insole because I have some insole's, what I would

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call or I was told are orthotics that fit in the entire shoe.

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It's like a new insert, the whole thing.

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You take out the little thing that comes with it and then you put it in the new one and it's

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the full shoe.

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Sometimes you have to cut it to fit it in there and that's the thing that helps with whatever

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you're working on.

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You're talking about just a smaller part.

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Yeah.

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To target the specific thing that we're working on so it doesn't have to completely replace

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whatever else is going on in the shoe itself.

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Exactly.

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I can show you, I've got an example right here.

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This is the shoe bubble.

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It's unique shape.

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You kind of would think, "Where does that go in your shoe?"

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This would be for the right foot.

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I've got a sandal here just to show you where it would go.

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It goes right in the middle of the shoe.

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You can see how it increases the amount of arch support you've got right here and then it'll

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drop off for the heel and the forefoot.

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It's only filling in that gap to softly bring your foot to where normal should be.

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That's the concept.

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Ah, because the ones I have that fit into a full shoe are not going to go into a sandal or a flip

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flop.

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They're designed to go into an athletic style shoe.

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Years.

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Okay.

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I'm trying to figure it out.

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What's the difference between what you're doing and what everybody else does?

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Mine also go into flip flops and sandals.

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They can fit into dress shoes which are more slimmer fitting shoe.

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But also athletic shoes.

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The one thing about athletic shoes though is that sometimes they come with some existing

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support and the clear colored shoe bubble.

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This is our maximum thickness.

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So we have another option for shoes that have some existing support, but it just doesn't

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feel like quite enough.

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Then we have a thinner version that's black and color.

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It's the pro light.

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So a lot of athletes are using the pro light, especially tennis layers because a lot of these

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shoes have some support, but it's just not quite enough.

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Sure.

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In the case we've got the tennis relatively tennis specific market that we target here, it's

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trying to find that support that helps.

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I have a friend, you and I have been emailing previously.

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I have a friend Alex who struggled with playing our fashion.

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He had a year and a half off from tennis.

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It was tough.

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He ended up getting some orthotics and you walked me through the difference of what I told

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you the one he was using and you walked me through what you can help him with.

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That leads me to the question of you've got reusable years or washable which I like because I

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don't know that I would take the big floppy thing out and throw it in the dishwasher or whatever

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it is for my orthotics.

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It looks like yours are better in that case to be able to clean it.

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Do they have a similar lifespan as the ones that I would typically be out there to live

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forever because they're magic plastic.

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How's that work?

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Well the cool thing is that they don't compress over time.

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They're made of a memory gel that's naturally adhesive on the bottom side.

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The only thing that really can happen over time is the adhesive can wear out.

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We can fix that with double-sided tape so that's another thing we offer to keep your

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insole lasting longer if eventually the adhesive wears out.

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You can use double-sided tape and stick it down.

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That's not washable like the original adhesive is but you can continue to use them for

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a year after year and continue to have that support in all of your shoes.

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I like that a lot because it's not only affordable I was looking at some pricing thinking

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okay a little piece of plastic is going to be one of those things where my little piece

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of plastic is $800 because I got it from memory healthcare.

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Or is it going to be a good price point?

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I really appreciate it where you are with your pricing.

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I mean it's such a big deal to be able to afford to take care of your feet.

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When I was hand-making orthotics I still do occasionally for especially for customers that

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used to come into the store that had known me for years but it takes so much time to meet

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with people to hand-carve it to meet with them again make little micro adjustments so they

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have to cost $400 because of all that time and the cost of materials.

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Being able to get these manufactured I'm able to offer a solution for people's foot problems

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for $25 to $30.

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Some little parts and pieces that I sell it's around $15 and you take someone who has been

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living in pain for the past year and suddenly they can walk again and get out of the house

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and they're not paying and it costs $15 or $30 or $40 not $400 or $500.

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So that's the goal really.

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The next product I'm making is going to be a full length and so because sometimes people do

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need extra cushioning in their shoes so I'm going to make a really cushion and so that

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all of the parts and pieces that we have can be attached to.

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So you can customize the install yourself.

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Do you guys want to sneak peek of the new product?

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I have a sample.

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If you have one, we'll only get it on the video of course but yeah we'd love to see what's

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wrong.

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And then it's got a little bit of a line on the bottom that you can place different pieces

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on depending upon if you'd supinate which is rolling to the outside edge of your shoe

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pronate which is collapsing at the inside or if you're having four foot pain there's a space

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you can put a piece of ramp to tilt the foot backwards and lift up right behind those

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meditarsal heads to offload pressure or on the top it's got the space to add the shoe bubble

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shape.

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So yeah, let's sneak peek.

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It tells you where to put the pieces.

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I like that a lot and I get to ask Bobby, Bobby seems to complain every

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time we talk to somebody that I make some old person joke.

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Here comes.

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I've spent a lot of time.

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A lot of time on court as tennis coaches and so the cushion helps a lot.

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It really is I come only the end of the day and Bobby's on court more hours than I am and

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there are a lot of guys in Atlanta as coaches and guys and girls that are all out there

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a lot and over hours and it's one thing to have that support which we really appreciate.

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Another thing to have that cushion that helps in general.

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Bobby, are you in any orthotics right now?

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I know I'm using one from a general support.

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What are you using?

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I don't and I just took my shoe off because I wanted to get the terminology.

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I am notorious for wearing out.

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I guess the back outside of my heel and then the inside of my the ball of my foot.

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The inside I can understand because that I mean that's pushing off and loading in tennis.

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The outside baffles me how I wear out shoes and this is I mean that little that's a good

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pair this is one of my newer pair of shoes.

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So I go through shoes and under three months most of the time the way I walk and I try and

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I used to run track and long time ago and went to the orthotics like we'll start on

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your pigeon toad, knock lead and bowl leg and you're going to have some issues and I

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took that as get out of track.

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But obviously like Sean says what we do the place that I experienced the most pain unquestably

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is my feet my ankles.

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So anything I can do to help I'm very interested in.

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So you have a less common fulfillment on so most orthotics that are over the counter are going

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to help the opposite issue which is over pronation.

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And you wear out the outer corners of the heel edges of your shoes it's a clear cut sign

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of oversupination.

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oversupination you need an extra piece called a heel wedge.

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So this is actually about a year.

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So you want something extra that's thicker on the outside and it tapers to thinner on the inside

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to help tilt the foot back to neutral position and help to stop you from wearing out your

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shoes so quickly.

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Yours if you're wearing your shoes out in three months you have a more significant case

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of oversupination.

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It's another thing that you really want to watch out for and rebalance your footwear because

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you're going to be more prone to twisting your ankle and rolling your foot all the way to the

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outside which can put you out for a long time.

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Yes.

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Yes. Yes. So if you were to just get an over the counter orthotic it's going to push you more to

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the outside in general.

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So you want to rebalance that out you could get one if you need arch support but then you

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would need to add some posting on the outside to rebalance the foot and even more if you're

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counteracting an additional arch support which will push you more to the outside.

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That makes sense.

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And that's a heel wedge.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, you can do heel wedges.

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I also have a product called a ramp and that goes from thicker to thinner but that's a piece

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that you can put on the outside or the inside or in various places.

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So the heel wedge or the ramps are stackable.

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This is a this is a $16 product.

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Well that's what I'm saying.

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If you got it I'm buying them because I've went in years ago and they said oh yeah this

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is going to cost you and this is again a long time ago.

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It's $700 and you know I was not rich.

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Sean saying he's not bringing up the age.

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It's him but it was a long time ago.

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It's just fact.

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And you know that truly I remember I said I'm just not going to run anymore.

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This is ridiculous.

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But it is where I experienced the most amount of pain and the shoes just what looking where

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my shoes were out is hysterical.

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And I try to walk differently.

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No I'm not young but that's okay but yeah.

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I know but when you're young and you're told it's going to be $600 to fix this

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footage.

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You're going to be like I'm tough.

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I can I cut this out.

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I don't need to have $600 or with the ox.

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So that even you know at any age you don't want to spend that much.

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It's a lot.

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It's a big investment.

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Well I'm going to dig for it like you said it leads to the other injuries too.

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The susceptibility to and I was inner knee pain was also something I experienced a lot back

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in the day and it's it makes sense if you're leaning one way but you're going the other.

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You're you're constantly at odds with your body.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah your linements if your linements off at your feet your linement is off that your ankles

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knees hips and back.

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So can it it can affect your body all the way up.

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So my concept is a bit different than a lot of the custom orthotics out there.

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So I use soft materials to softly bring the feet to where normal should be.

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I have varying thicknesses that you can use to add support or posting whatever's needed.

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A lot of times when you're going to get custom orthotics they take a mold of your foot.

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They cast it, they send it out to a laboratory and they send you back a plastic version of the

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bottom of your foot may be covered with a little bit of foam.

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To me that's not the best.

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I mean it can help to have arch support.

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So a lot of people will still have success with that but it's not necessarily the best way

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to accomplish the same thing because sometimes you're just basically if you've got problems

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with your feet and you cast the bottom of your foot you're just copying the bottom of your foot

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that has problems with my way I'm softly bringing you to where normal should be and offloading

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pressure and also by using soft materials you've got better impact absorption.

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So for people who do sports like tennis basketball you're running you're jumping you need

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to impact absorption. So if you put a hard plastic orthotic in your shoe you're counteracting

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the shoes impact absorption with the foams that are in the outsole.

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So soft materials or just adding something in the middle of the foot is a better option

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so that you have better impact absorption when you're landing. Does that make sense?

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Perfect.

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I'm sold.

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And I say Bobby's in.

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And my question in that case then is from a from when Bobby mentioned it also some inner knee pain.

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Are we looking at something we were looking at one of the products earlier my wife has had some runners

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knee issue I can't even pronounce with the actual the actual name of runners knee is.

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But then that kind of thing you've got something specifically that can help with that simply focused on an orthotic.

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Well it really depends. I'd have to see her feet to understand why because it's not always from the same thing

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with that issue.

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So you have to know like is she an overproneator or her arch is dropping and you know basically you want to get your feet into alignment.

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Whether the arches are dropping and you need to raise them up or if you're you know tilting to the outside then you've got to bring yourself more in.

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And when to get your feet in better alignment and your ankles in better alignment your knees can also be in better alignment so that you're not going to have an issue like this.

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But rest is really important as well for runners knee you got to take a break and let your body heal.

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Nobody likes to hear that. Nobody wants to stop.

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Yeah taking time off is hard to say yes to and my yeah because my question there is Jovi my wife is a Pilates instructor by trade so her ability to keep her body aligned is better than most.

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So we read through the year you've got some good good educational information on the website as well which I would want to tell you about or tell everybody about it.

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So in soul calm and it's the education of a kind of look through and the shop has your six or seven you know specifically targeted and the seven specifically targeted products definitely looking forward to that.

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Full length cushioned one for sure definitely for tennis players.

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And a few testimonials for this edge this education space is really good because these are the main things that we see a lot.

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Well it's not all about you know just just providing orthotics. We also want to teach people that it's important to exercise your feet a lot of times when you have but pain you kind of want to ignore it.

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So you you think oh feet just hurt and so you somewhat will cut off the connection between your brain and your feet to just ignore that pain and then things can get worse and worse and worse.

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I think that it's really important to exercise your feet to bring awareness back to your feet so that you can help figure out what you need to do to heal.

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So a lot of people you know you say oh can you can you lift your toes up and they go I can't move my toes.

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I don't have control over how to move my toes and I almost felt like that myself when I first tried I saw one of my friends and she was able to lift her toes up like this and I was like that's really weird who can do that.

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But you know through doing yoga and then also through practicing that I realize how beneficial it is to gain control over your feet.

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Move your toes be able to lift all four toes up at the same time and be able to lift up just to your big toe.

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It helps to build muscles, strengthen your feet too so if you do things like that you point your toes.

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I think that you can do something exercise those sort of things will build muscular chair in your feet when you build the muscles up in your feet it protects the ligaments and the tendons.

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And so in addition to wearing orthotics if you build up the muscle strength in your feet you're going to be so much healthier and happier and feel more balanced and have more control while you're playing your sports.

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And if you look up sol and soul foot exercises there's a bunch of exercises on there that you can do to strengthen your feet and it helps with a wide variety of foot ailments and even if you don't hurt there's no reason not to just do some of these exercises while you're standing around and when you have a little bit of time it doesn't it doesn't take that much time but it makes a big difference.

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And that's your YouTube channel right on YouTube yeah just search our brand name soul and soul foot exercises you find this.

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So how do people find you thanks this is a process you know I wake up I'm a normal person I'm a tennis player I have a foot pain.

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The pediatrics I go to the orthopedic I go online I mean you know we always say don't don't try to self diagnose online how do we find you and you know being that are you in places you know you go in these places now that have kios put your foot here and we'll tell you everything this wrong with your foot.

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You know how do we find you and get these specific help that we need that these are probably selling more of a blanket protection that are going to address the intricacies that you do.

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I mean there are a ton of brands out there so it is easy to get lost in the shuffle and I think it's really easy for a customer to to not know what's going to be best for them.

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But eventually through the word works you know you try different things and then you know you hear from word of mouth from a friend who's tried it before or we have a lot of doctors that recommend our products the diatrice physical therapist carerpractors.

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And a lot of people find out about us through going to physical therapy or going to a carerpractor and they say hey like you're out of alignment let me get you back into alignment and then this will help keep you an alignment longer if you support your feet.

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There are stores like foot solution broken stock.

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The comfort true stores were in some of those you know a couple hundred throughout the US and then we're also online so you know.

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And the most of the various physical therapists and the diatrice have written articles recommending our products after they've seen success with the clients.

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And also Kickstarter gave a gave the first boost so it's kind of funny how would it would reach that platform had for us.

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I still get customers in random places like Singapore.

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And I think that that just happens because of word of mouth from the original Kickstarter campaign from seven years ago.

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So it's pretty cool to be able to ship in souls to random islands that I never even heard of before people can find out through the internet through a doctor through a friend that has worn our insults before and we ship them everywhere it's amazing.

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So following up with Bobby's question about where you're findable as products go is it just the website is it Amazon did I miss that what where else like I know.

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I think you can find this on Amazon we're on a few websites like the Insol store we have our own website www.soulinsole so you L I and S O L E come like your heart and soul so you well.

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So that's that's our website if Amazon's easier for you than that works and then we've got other online retailers that sell our products on their comfort shoe websites.

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Yeah, we've got our deal up we've got a soul insole where our go tennis members get 10% off which we appreciate which is exciting for the go tennis members specifically which doesn't go directly toward Amazon but that's some of those places where we can.

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Give reviews and say hey this is the greatest insole protection you know this is the greatest orthotic this is the greatest thing that's ever happened me I can walk again.

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Try to get those reviews out there and share even more.

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Yeah and all of your fans you know I just wanted to repeat all of your fans can get a discount with the promo code go tennis on our website.

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We want to make sure that you know everybody that you care about can have a little a little discount to help out and give them a chance to try it out.

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You're interested.

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And we appreciate that that's as a tennis community having affordable orthotics I mean it sounds like I say it sounds like a boring conversation let's talk about orthotics today but but it really is is extra helpful and as my wife agrees with you completely that exercise.

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The feet she got me into Pilates and as you're sitting here talking about people not being able to move their toes I'm wiggling my toes like people can't do this is thinking to myself.

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That's hopefully we've got ways to help the tennis community here and I don't know Laina do you have any personal tennis experience at all.

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Oh yeah I definitely I love that I'm talking to someone in the tennis community because I love tennis myself it's something that I have kept up for it's sporadically for my whole life.

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It's it's such a good way to stay healthy and stay active.

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I know a lot of people who play tennis transition to pickle ball later in life too and haven't gotten a chance to learn that sport but that's that's on my list just something to try.

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It's popular and I'll admit it's fun it's a lot of fun so with I've got one last question that we ask everybody and I don't know if you've put much thought into it that I sent in the in the preview email asking it's what we call my king of tennis question.

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And again whether it has to do with tennis whether it has to do with food health whether it has to do with just kind of your point of view personally.

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If you were king or maybe queen of tennis in your case is there something you would do do you you'd have everybody have healthy feet you know and here's how we do it.

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Or what's do you have any ideas as to what you would do if you were king or queen of tennis for a day.

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Oh my gosh. I would love I would love the chance to design actual tennis shoes maybe eventually I'm going to get into two designs but I'm starting with the insults.

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So putting good insults that are right for your unique needs would would be helpful doing foot exercise or helpful.

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Also reaching for the toes and and stretching your calves can be really important for runners and tennis players a lot of times you end up with tight calves and so making sure that your calves aren't too tight is important to protect yourself from injuries as well.

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Oh my you just open up and doors box.

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So there we go.

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She did it and she got on you think because and this is funny because it's seemingly what we I find on the court now the new injury and tennis for the older players specifically is the half injury and my way I approach it is.

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And we're essentially science experiments people our age in the past did not continue to exercise compete at the levels that we are today.

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But we are working progress trying to find out why all of the sentences certain spot your calf becomes less elastic obviously hydration has a lot to do with it not stretching properly.

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So that that's a great point because so many people my buddy one of my teaching pros has chronic and this is an Olympic athlete.

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Veronica in your issues so it starts with the feet is what you have you got to take care of your feet and to make sure that as you go up everything else stays in place.

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So where would have you found if you've done it a little kick the demographic of your client right now just at a curiosity.

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You cut out a little bit the demographic yeah the more the age in which people start or you know the age that people buy a product what what is what would you call your most loyal or when you see the most people I'm just trying to cure.

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I do think that most you know most of our customers are 50 plus but it's not because people younger don't have but pain it's more that younger people push through their foot pain and just.

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Just just deal with it a little bit better once it becomes really debilitating and and also when you're older you've you've heard stories of other people healing themselves through.

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We're wearing orthotics so you give them more of a chance so it's not that people who are younger don't have foot pain and don't need orthotics it's just that that's who we've been able to reach more first and who's you know who's wearing our insults more.

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I think that's a good thing to mention one more thing about the the calf issue so if you imagine.

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Imagine your body you've got.

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Fasha which is a connective tissue and this connective tissue goes from your calves all the way to under the bottom of your feet so when you've got tight calves it pulls on the fascia underneath the bottom of your feet and so that can even be a part of causing planar fasciitis for some people.

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Just stretching your calves can be very helpful for your feet.

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It's a connection and that it you killed debunked my theory I was helping the younger generation was getting smarter and going to try to find solutions early rather than the older people mentality of tough it up but oh well on that.

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That's kind of part of that's why I wanted to make these ones look cool I mean look look how look at the design to get excited look at the cool maybe having it look cool make it more attractive for younger people to protect their feet before the injuries happen.

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Well because it's a generation that's trained to go to the end of and find things so that's why I was curious I was you know that was my train of thought that.

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This is more along their sweet spot where the older generation that general as you said about pickleball that transitioning the older people transitioning to pickleball this is a certain demographic.

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Are they finally getting to the point that they realize that it helps okay it's not a bad word to ask for help and to try to find the support we always laugh you know there's certain areas of the body.

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Everybody puts on their elbow brace you know it they before they go play you know their knee guard yes did you your doctor tell you to wear that brace no but I just I'm like okay so forget I just self diagnosis.

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You know there is a need to take care of the body beyond just trying to put a bandaid on you know find the root cause causes and I love the idea that your products adjust to your foot so you are trying to address more than just a bandaid so I think it's very important.

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And that's one of the best things about the thinner version of my orthotic the pro light is that it can be used for preventative purposes so even if you're not experiencing major foot pain at this time.

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It's not a reason to not provide support for your feet and keep your feet in your body and alignment so it won't feel like too much when using the thinner pro light but it's there for you in case you land too hard.

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And you don't get a tear in it and it won't put you out from your game for months so it's really important to.

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And you're not that expensive to do and it's not that hard to do and I hope that with education and more videos like this we can inspire more people to have better health for their feet.

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And it's important. I think that's a good target because if we can talk prevention I think that's a good direction to go especially we get a get a pro light in everybody's tennis bag.

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It's kind of that target to say before you get injured before you turn 50 in your brain kicks in and says oh maybe I should just take better care of myself let's do that.

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I think that's a good plan and I think what we're doing here is we're trying to do for the Atlanta area specifically obviously isn't necessarily.

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stuck here you obviously have a global reach as you mentioned and from our point of view we're trying to make sure that everybody in the Atlanta area to start has all this information.

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I love the idea of getting these orthotics into tennis bags where hey I buy one of everything it's still cheaper than going out and getting that custom orthotic for four or five hundred dollars.

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And you've done a great job of keeping the price points. Aquarible that's fantastic.

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Thank you and thanks for helping share and makes such a difference.

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Well there you have it we want to thank Rejovenate for use of the studio be sure to check out Rejovenate.com if you're interested to improve your fitness health and wellness and not interested in a commute to the gym.

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