10 Minutes of Tennis: Plan A vs Plan B and is there a Plan C?
Episode #10 Season 24: Shaun Boyce & Justin Yeo
In this episode of 10 Minutes of Tennis, Shaun talks to world-renowned tennis coach, Justin Yeo, Australian in Puerto Rico. We discuss Plan A vs Plan B and is there a Plan C for your tennis matches.
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Speaker:So, I will say my typical, hey, hey, this is Shaun with GoTennis!
Speaker:and we are talking with world-renowned tennis coach
Speaker:Aussie in Puerto Rico, Justin Yeo, that always makes him smile when I say that
Speaker:because I know his humility, but I just like saying world-renowned tennis coach.
Speaker:Maybe one day somebody will say that about me, but I'm not worried about it.
Speaker:Justin, good morning and we are talking today about my plans.
Speaker:My game plans as a test player.
Speaker:I am, I got my plan A, I got my plan B, maybe, if I got a plan B,
Speaker:like if a plan A doesn't work, I'm going to plan B and if plan B doesn't work,
Speaker:I would guess most people don't even have a plan C.
Speaker:So, where are we going with this, Justin?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Well, plan A, plan B, plan C.
Speaker:Not many people talk about C, but A and B very important.
Speaker:You know, you've also got to realize that you sometimes not playing the player
Speaker:that you're about to play.
Speaker:And if you don't play them regularly enough, like going into its ornament,
Speaker:you never know if their game is evolved.
Speaker:So, if their game is evolved, you've got to have another plan
Speaker:to be able to outdo what they've now played.
Speaker:And a subject that again, it's really close to my heart,
Speaker:as nobody talks about this,
Speaker:Federer, Jogavitch, Nadal, never practice with each other.
Speaker:The only time they ever played each other,
Speaker:was in the finals of most of the tournaments and most of the Grand Slam.
Speaker:So, and they would never literally face the guy
Speaker:and see the upgrades or the evolve or the new styles that they've tried to add
Speaker:to stay on top until they play it.
Speaker:So, when they go out and play it, they have to be prepared for, well,
Speaker:a game A, a game B, I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that.
Speaker:But if you haven't faced it, then maybe C is, hey, what's my gut telling me
Speaker:and how am I going to beat this guy today?
Speaker:And it could be just a mental thing.
Speaker:It could be just say, I am not missing today.
Speaker:I'm not missing at all.
Speaker:And that could be your seat.
Speaker:So, I think when people think about that in preparation
Speaker:before coming on the court, it gives them the opportunity
Speaker:to evolve and move throughout the match.
Speaker:If not, we see people crumble very quickly
Speaker:because the game has taken away from me and there's no backup.
Speaker:You can see me put the towel over their head and sit in the chain
Speaker:and you're going to let that album go and do how I stop this.
Speaker:I have to say, the toilet breaks lately, I help them get from B to C and A to B and the coy-out.
Speaker:You can say, they get a little bit of a disconnect from the crowd.
Speaker:They get into the and really start to go, okay,
Speaker:how is this going to be in the year right now?
Speaker:You know, and the Dallas is the most basic for me.
Speaker:I've always said, his game name is absolutely close-less
Speaker:and that is no one forced their route.
Speaker:I mean, that's all the go counts.
Speaker:If you listen to every interview he's ever done,
Speaker:they say, hey, what happened in the third season?
Speaker:I mean, to my other voice edits.
Speaker:I mean, yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Nick said I want--
Speaker:He had like five.
Speaker:Right, five, and I didn't say that.
Speaker:Nick said I want, did they?
Speaker:And he made the one point two.
Speaker:Me too.
Speaker:And that's his guy, man.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, and being healed and healed, like the move further back from the baseline or further up
Speaker:to try to get more defense or what.
Speaker:I mean, that's--
Speaker:And nowadays, his whole A/B is totally different
Speaker:because he's only two feet behind the baseline.
Speaker:And that guy to me is the epitome of tennis
Speaker:because he's a bolt and a bolt and a bolt to continue being where he is.
Speaker:And his game A and game B now, which a lot of people don't understand, is tactical.
Speaker:And when I say tactical, he knows that his opponent doesn't like 70% of balls here,
Speaker:that they like him here.
Speaker:So he'll play 70% of balls right there for the guy all day long.
Speaker:He knew he had to play 70% to 80% into Federer's backhand or he's going to get eaten up all day.
Speaker:So I mean, there's your A and your B and C.
Speaker:I've watched honestly too many of the Diles matches where he was three feet behind the baseline,
Speaker:losing, and then he goes 9 feet and wins the match.
Speaker:So-- but he can't do that anymore because he's part of this line of law.
Speaker:So that's what--
Speaker:I know you said you weren't going to talk about this, but we have the opposite problem here in the US.
Speaker:Somebody says, I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker:I'm pushing. I'm like, oh, I'm getting this.
Speaker:The opposite problem in the US where we almost don't have a plan B.
Speaker:Because right now, we've been years since Andy Rodic made a great career of it.
Speaker:But I don't think anything away from Andy Rodic.
Speaker:I think he should have a couple of things.
Speaker:I still struggle with that high backhand ball, the at Wimbledon.
Speaker:But the plan A was plan A, plan A, and if plan A doesn't work, just double down on plan A.
Speaker:It only took him-- it took Andy that far.
Speaker:No one else has been able to replicate that success with only a plan A from the other side.
Speaker:So is there a tactical problem?
Speaker:Are we blaming the American coaches?
Speaker:What's the problem there?
Speaker:I mean, plan A is good, but big serve, big forehand, that's great.
Speaker:But where is the plan B in the US player?
Speaker:Yeah, I think-- and again, I love Brad Gilbert because he's so tactical.
Speaker:I think the US-- this is, again, my only personal opinion for coaching 36 years,
Speaker:have been in the States for half of that.
Speaker:But I've always just constantly keep seeing-- yeah, I think that was a great comment.
Speaker:We'll just double down on A.
Speaker:And then there's just too many errors or just too much pressure.
Speaker:There's too much going on on the one style.
Speaker:And I think I would like to see kids from a very young age,
Speaker:instead of focusing on technique and just hitting the ball,
Speaker:to literally learning how to play the game and learn on click or learn hitting against the hackers,
Speaker:learn against every single style.
Speaker:And if you go up highly ranked,
Speaker:rate, get highly ranked as a junior, start playing adult early.
Speaker:So you start learning all the variations as soon as possible.
Speaker:Because then you're going to have a B and an A.
Speaker:And that's not taken away from-- so Andy had what?
Speaker:Massive forehand, massive serve.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:He had an incredible two-handed down the line.
Speaker:Man, could he clock that thing?
Speaker:Right? But they were very limited in his weapons.
Speaker:And when those weapons were taken away,
Speaker:I mean, Jimi kind of brought the slice in,
Speaker:brought into the net.
Speaker:But that was late in his career.
Speaker:Better to bat advice too.
Speaker:It's better hit that little short chip and--
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And if I was as a junior development coach for many years and raised,
Speaker:many, many national international juniors,
Speaker:I'd write-- and I'm seeing it.
Speaker:We're seeing a flow of amazing women and men on the US tour.
Speaker:No question.
Speaker:But to get another top 10,
Speaker:another top five in multiple plays that we can idolize and see,
Speaker:like another Andy number one.
Speaker:Jimi kind of is number one.
Speaker:Joan McRae number one.
Speaker:You know, I'll go back.
Speaker:We can go back with all the way back.
Speaker:It's, you know, Smith, same thing.
Speaker:They had the variations.
Speaker:They had a B and an A and a B and a B and an A.
Speaker:And they could switch that in between points.
Speaker:You know?
Speaker:And that's what I would say, trying to develop kids playing
Speaker:as early as possible.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:my Braille system as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker:as soon as we get kids playing,
Speaker:the better they're going to be plays.
Speaker:And in the United States,
Speaker:to me, as the number one advantage
Speaker:over every other country,
Speaker:every other country,
Speaker:I've said this over and over as a foreigner,
Speaker:that every major sport that you watch on TV is tactical.
Speaker:All you know is tactical.
Speaker:All you know, for all they're going on there are.
Speaker:Baseball that make it, they make it, they make it, they're cold.
Speaker:Basketball, the guy who pulls out the screen,
Speaker:he says, now we're going to do this.
Speaker:And we're going to come back from 12 points behind,
Speaker:just by playing this type of pool.
Speaker:That happens.
Speaker:And I'm good with that.
Speaker:The problem there is, you know who's calling those plays.
Speaker:It's not player.
Speaker:Everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the face, right?
Speaker:Isn't that a punch in the mouth and that it?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And this player's going to go out there and he's going to make
Speaker:those adjustments.
Speaker:He's got to figure those things out.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Because though he's got a whole team of coaches behind him
Speaker:telling him what to do.
Speaker:Again, it's a matter of playing from an early age instead of hitting.
Speaker:That's what I'm pointing out.
Speaker:From a very early age, it's playing more versus hitting.
Speaker:That will help you learn those fundamentals when you get old enough
Speaker:that you've got AP and possibly even seen.
Speaker:So that's all I'm saying now.
Speaker:And I'm saying, I'm loving seeing all the American males
Speaker:coming through.
Speaker:They're all flying.
Speaker:They are looking like they're growing.
Speaker:They're looking like they're getting more comfortable
Speaker:within their game and playing more tactical and staying with it.
Speaker:They're not just north-south.
Speaker:They're quick.
Speaker:They're fast.
Speaker:I mean, Fritz is his game is growing.
Speaker:He's, I love to wear a teddy.
Speaker:But I just see, you know, like all these that really know
Speaker:what it's to feel like.
Speaker:And again, once again, A, B and C.
Speaker:He's known as feels like to play against Alpreas enough.
Speaker:And they don't, they only match when it's the end of a tournament
Speaker:or a certain position.
Speaker:So he doesn't get to feel what that's like until he's in the moment.
Speaker:And that's why AP and C is so important that when he's in the moment,
Speaker:he can dig and find a way.
Speaker:Justin Yao, I appreciate it.
Speaker:We'll see you next week.
Speaker:Thank you guys.
Speaker:It was fun again.
Speaker:I love it really.
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