Episode 8 Season 24: Shaun Boyce & Justin Yeo

In this episode of 10 Minutes of Tennis, Shaun talks to world-renowned tennis coach, Justin Yeo, Australian in Puerto Rico. We discuss Plan A vs Plan B and is there a Plan C for your tennis matches.

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So, I will say my typical, hey, hey, this is Shaun with GoTennis!

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and we are talking with world-renowned tennis coach

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Aussie in Puerto Rico, Justin Yeo, that always makes him smile when I say that

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because I know his humility, but I just like saying world-renowned tennis coach.

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Maybe one day somebody will say that about me, but I'm not worried about it.

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Justin, good morning and we are talking today about my plans.

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My game plans as a test player.

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I am, I got my plan A, I got my plan B, maybe, if I got a plan B,

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like if a plan A doesn't work, I'm going to plan B and if plan B doesn't work,

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I would guess most people don't even have a plan C.

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So, where are we going with this, Justin?

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Yeah.

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Well, plan A, plan B, plan C.

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Not many people talk about C, but A and B very important.

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You know, you've also got to realize that you sometimes not playing the player

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that you're about to play.

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And if you don't play them regularly enough, like going into its ornament,

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you never know if their game is evolved.

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So, if their game is evolved, you've got to have another plan

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to be able to outdo what they've now played.

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And a subject that again, it's really close to my heart,

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as nobody talks about this,

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Federer, Jogavitch, Nadal, never practice with each other.

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The only time they ever played each other,

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was in the finals of most of the tournaments and most of the Grand Slam.

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So, and they would never literally face the guy

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and see the upgrades or the evolve or the new styles that they've tried to add

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to stay on top until they play it.

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So, when they go out and play it, they have to be prepared for, well,

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a game A, a game B, I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that.

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But if you haven't faced it, then maybe C is, hey, what's my gut telling me

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and how am I going to beat this guy today?

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And it could be just a mental thing.

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It could be just say, I am not missing today.

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I'm not missing at all.

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And that could be your seat.

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So, I think when people think about that in preparation

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before coming on the court, it gives them the opportunity

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to evolve and move throughout the match.

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If not, we see people crumble very quickly

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because the game has taken away from me and there's no backup.

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You can see me put the towel over their head and sit in the chain

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and you're going to let that album go and do how I stop this.

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I have to say, the toilet breaks lately, I help them get from B to C and A to B and the coy-out.

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You can say, they get a little bit of a disconnect from the crowd.

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They get into the and really start to go, okay,

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how is this going to be in the year right now?

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You know, and the Dallas is the most basic for me.

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I've always said, his game name is absolutely close-less

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and that is no one forced their route.

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I mean, that's all the go counts.

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If you listen to every interview he's ever done,

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they say, hey, what happened in the third season?

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I mean, to my other voice edits.

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I mean, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Nick said I want--

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He had like five.

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Right, five, and I didn't say that.

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Nick said I want, did they?

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And he made the one point two.

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Me too.

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And that's his guy, man.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, and being healed and healed, like the move further back from the baseline or further up

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to try to get more defense or what.

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I mean, that's--

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And nowadays, his whole A/B is totally different

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because he's only two feet behind the baseline.

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And that guy to me is the epitome of tennis

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because he's a bolt and a bolt and a bolt to continue being where he is.

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And his game A and game B now, which a lot of people don't understand, is tactical.

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And when I say tactical, he knows that his opponent doesn't like 70% of balls here,

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that they like him here.

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So he'll play 70% of balls right there for the guy all day long.

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He knew he had to play 70% to 80% into Federer's backhand or he's going to get eaten up all day.

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So I mean, there's your A and your B and C.

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I've watched honestly too many of the Diles matches where he was three feet behind the baseline,

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losing, and then he goes 9 feet and wins the match.

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So-- but he can't do that anymore because he's part of this line of law.

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So that's what--

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I know you said you weren't going to talk about this, but we have the opposite problem here in the US.

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Somebody says, I don't want to talk about it.

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I'm pushing. I'm like, oh, I'm getting this.

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The opposite problem in the US where we almost don't have a plan B.

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Because right now, we've been years since Andy Rodic made a great career of it.

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But I don't think anything away from Andy Rodic.

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I think he should have a couple of things.

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I still struggle with that high backhand ball, the at Wimbledon.

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But the plan A was plan A, plan A, and if plan A doesn't work, just double down on plan A.

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It only took him-- it took Andy that far.

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No one else has been able to replicate that success with only a plan A from the other side.

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So is there a tactical problem?

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Are we blaming the American coaches?

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What's the problem there?

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I mean, plan A is good, but big serve, big forehand, that's great.

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But where is the plan B in the US player?

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Yeah, I think-- and again, I love Brad Gilbert because he's so tactical.

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I think the US-- this is, again, my only personal opinion for coaching 36 years,

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have been in the States for half of that.

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But I've always just constantly keep seeing-- yeah, I think that was a great comment.

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We'll just double down on A.

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And then there's just too many errors or just too much pressure.

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There's too much going on on the one style.

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And I think I would like to see kids from a very young age,

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instead of focusing on technique and just hitting the ball,

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to literally learning how to play the game and learn on click or learn hitting against the hackers,

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learn against every single style.

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And if you go up highly ranked,

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rate, get highly ranked as a junior, start playing adult early.

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So you start learning all the variations as soon as possible.

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Because then you're going to have a B and an A.

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And that's not taken away from-- so Andy had what?

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Massive forehand, massive serve.

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Right?

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He had an incredible two-handed down the line.

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Man, could he clock that thing?

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Right? But they were very limited in his weapons.

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And when those weapons were taken away,

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I mean, Jimi kind of brought the slice in,

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brought into the net.

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But that was late in his career.

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Better to bat advice too.

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It's better hit that little short chip and--

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Right?

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Right.

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And if I was as a junior development coach for many years and raised,

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many, many national international juniors,

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I'd write-- and I'm seeing it.

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We're seeing a flow of amazing women and men on the US tour.

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No question.

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But to get another top 10,

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another top five in multiple plays that we can idolize and see,

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like another Andy number one.

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Jimi kind of is number one.

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Joan McRae number one.

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You know, I'll go back.

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We can go back with all the way back.

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It's, you know, Smith, same thing.

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They had the variations.

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They had a B and an A and a B and a B and an A.

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And they could switch that in between points.

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You know?

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And that's what I would say, trying to develop kids playing

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as early as possible.

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You know,

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my Braille system as far as I'm concerned,

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as soon as we get kids playing,

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the better they're going to be plays.

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And in the United States,

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to me, as the number one advantage

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over every other country,

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every other country,

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I've said this over and over as a foreigner,

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that every major sport that you watch on TV is tactical.

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All you know is tactical.

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All you know, for all they're going on there are.

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Baseball that make it, they make it, they make it, they're cold.

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Basketball, the guy who pulls out the screen,

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he says, now we're going to do this.

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And we're going to come back from 12 points behind,

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just by playing this type of pool.

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That happens.

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And I'm good with that.

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The problem there is, you know who's calling those plays.

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It's not player.

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Everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the face, right?

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Isn't that a punch in the mouth and that it?

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Yeah.

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And this player's going to go out there and he's going to make

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those adjustments.

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He's got to figure those things out.

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Yeah.

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Because though he's got a whole team of coaches behind him

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telling him what to do.

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Again, it's a matter of playing from an early age instead of hitting.

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That's what I'm pointing out.

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From a very early age, it's playing more versus hitting.

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That will help you learn those fundamentals when you get old enough

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that you've got AP and possibly even seen.

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So that's all I'm saying now.

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And I'm saying, I'm loving seeing all the American males

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coming through.

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They're all flying.

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They are looking like they're growing.

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They're looking like they're getting more comfortable

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within their game and playing more tactical and staying with it.

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They're not just north-south.

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They're quick.

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They're fast.

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I mean, Fritz is his game is growing.

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He's, I love to wear a teddy.

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But I just see, you know, like all these that really know

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what it's to feel like.

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And again, once again, A, B and C.

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He's known as feels like to play against Alpreas enough.

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And they don't, they only match when it's the end of a tournament

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or a certain position.

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So he doesn't get to feel what that's like until he's in the moment.

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And that's why AP and C is so important that when he's in the moment,

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he can dig and find a way.

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Justin Yao, I appreciate it.

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We'll see you next week.

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Thank you guys.

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It was fun again.

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I love it really.

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