Episode #18 Season 24: Shaun Boyce & Justin Yeo
In this episode of 10 Minutes of Tennis, Shaun talks to world-renowned tennis coach, Justin Yeo, Australian in Puerto Rico. We talk about possibly the most important concept in the game of tennis. TIME.
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Speaker:I have a lot. Good morning, everyone.
Speaker:Good morning.
Speaker:We're on Puerto Rican Tennis.
Speaker:We're on a 10 minute journey.
Speaker:[Laughter]
Speaker:That's what it's all about.
Speaker:If you're watching live, we are on island time.
Speaker:It is 10 minutes of tennis at 10.0.2 today.
Speaker:Yeah, and I quickly jumped in and it's just Shaun.
Speaker:So there we go.
Speaker:The world-renowned Ankle Biters.
Speaker:[Laughter]
Speaker:Oh, nice.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:Shaun, I am Justin you are.
Speaker:And we were going to talk about the concept of time.
Speaker:You actually called it the game of time.
Speaker:You know, curious if you chose that phrase specifically,
Speaker:or you're just referring to tennis.
Speaker:So, Justin, what are we talking about?
Speaker:We're talking about every element.
Speaker:The whole game is built to Ranton.
Speaker:Time between points.
Speaker:Time between shots.
Speaker:Time between match.
Speaker:Time between change of ends.
Speaker:I mean, everything's based to Ranton.
Speaker:Even nowadays, if we're really conscious of watching the TV,
Speaker:they're showing the time clock now between when the guy gets to serve
Speaker:and when he gets in violation.
Speaker:So everything is based on time right now.
Speaker:And if we're going to start talking about time,
Speaker:I want to probably help those that are amateur,
Speaker:that would like to learn the sport more.
Speaker:And those that are juniors that would like to be outstanding players.
Speaker:This subject is a big one for me on the performance side of understanding
Speaker:how you can get better in the game.
Speaker:If you look at the players and where the game is gone,
Speaker:I'm at a very big advantage because I grew up with the chip in charge,
Speaker:gets the net,
Speaker:short in the game, short in the point,
Speaker:get in there as fast as you can, destroy your opponent on the net.
Speaker:As an Izzy, it's all we know.
Speaker:It's probably one of our best specialties.
Speaker:And if we've watched the sport in the last five,
Speaker:10 years, at least the last five years,
Speaker:everybody's getting to net.
Speaker:Raffia and the Dahl's numbers were off the charts in the last five years,
Speaker:and everybody wasn't watching.
Speaker:And they were all eventually saying,
Speaker:"Oh my god, look at how many points it's one at the net."
Speaker:And even in the French, he came to the net more than ever.
Speaker:And the reason why is because it's short in his time on the court.
Speaker:And if he short in his time on the court, he didn't get injured.
Speaker:He didn't have to work so hard.
Speaker:He didn't actually have to quit the sport.
Speaker:He could keep playing.
Speaker:And so as you get older,
Speaker:so to say, guys, over 40, we've got a short in the point.
Speaker:You've got to be able to get in.
Speaker:You've got to be able to create something quicker,
Speaker:which sort of backs into what we've been talking about over the weeks,
Speaker:is understanding the three dimensions, understanding tactical awareness,
Speaker:not just sitting down the baseline grind,
Speaker:and like we had to just kind of do that anymore if you're over 40.
Speaker:If you look at the IBM stats,
Speaker:the IBM stats, the Craig Channancy has promoted over and over from IBM.
Speaker:Zero to four.
Speaker:Zero to four shots is what the game is about.
Speaker:Zero to four.
Speaker:Not 40, 50, 60 ball rallies.
Speaker:It's zero to four shots is what the game is built around.
Speaker:So what are we talking about?
Speaker:Time.
Speaker:You've got to press the time because you've got to try to make some shots and get
Speaker:structured quickly.
Speaker:You've got to get time to be able to get to the net quickly,
Speaker:shut it off.
Speaker:And then the big one I can give everybody on time that nobody seems to talk about.
Speaker:And I still would love to up jump Mac and know to talk about it for me,
Speaker:because nobody talks about the time between racket to racket.
Speaker:Racket to racket is everything.
Speaker:Grab your cell phone.
Speaker:Grab your cell phone.
Speaker:Unlock it.
Speaker:Go to work.
Speaker:Go to the stopwatch.
Speaker:Go to the stopwatch.
Speaker:You see mine, right?
Speaker:Start, start the point.
Speaker:Every time they hit,
Speaker:every time they hit a shot, hit the lap button.
Speaker:All right, as a kid, as an adult, whatever.
Speaker:Start looking at it.
Speaker:Fours.
Speaker:At the end of the point, see how long it was, 11 seconds.
Speaker:But every single time they hit a ball, you'll see 0.8, 0.9, 1.2.
Speaker:You'll start to see patterns as well.
Speaker:If Raffer's playing, it's usually 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 seconds,
Speaker:because he put so much loop on the ball before the guy hits it.
Speaker:It was Raffer up there.
Speaker:I mean Roger up the other end.
Speaker:He gave him 0.9 seconds on the next shot.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:And if you start to identify the players,
Speaker:you'll start to identify how much time they're trying to shut down
Speaker:against the opponent.
Speaker:And Jargavitch,
Speaker:Loot, Soft, Soft, then he steps in,
Speaker:neutral stance,
Speaker:flatens the ball out, gives him 0.8 seconds.
Speaker:Then he gives you 0.8 seconds again.
Speaker:Now it's hard for him to get to each ball,
Speaker:and the ball's now becoming 20% less.
Speaker:Boom, and he comes and pounds it.
Speaker:So time for me, as you can hear, I could talk about the next 50 minutes about time.
Speaker:But I've got 10 minutes, 10 minutes, and Tuesday at 10 o'clock.
Speaker:So all I've got to be able to talk about time.
Speaker:Sean, you want to add anything in?
Speaker:Well, I'm curious as the typical players, we can have the examples.
Speaker:You say, coming to the net is good.
Speaker:I love the thought that 0 to 4 is important.
Speaker:It makes me think of that Peter Teal book, The 0 to 1,
Speaker:which is creating a company, creating something from nothing.
Speaker:And in this case, being able to create a winning pattern,
Speaker:we go back to a recent conversation we had about patterns,
Speaker:create a winning pattern, but 0 to 4 is where we start.
Speaker:And with the young players, we talk about a pattern of saying,
Speaker:"Okay, I want you to serve and return."
Speaker:Call that your first pattern.
Speaker:Serve return, then next ball.
Speaker:Get it in.
Speaker:So if we talk about trying to take time away or using time to our advantage,
Speaker:with the amateur player, especially, I mean, we talk about
Speaker:sinner who's never been to the net in his life,
Speaker:and probably why he's not going to make a final.
Speaker:We can talk about the professional guys all day long and give examples.
Speaker:The question is, as an amateur player, if I'm a 3-5 player,
Speaker:playing league, whether it's singles doubles, whatever it is,
Speaker:doubles we usually know to come forward,
Speaker:because taking time away and cutting off the middle,
Speaker:and those kinds of things we typically understand.
Speaker:But from a junior perspective as well, which is what I spend a lot of my time on,
Speaker:being able to get the kids just to understand,
Speaker:the ball's coming back, you've got to get ready.
Speaker:However long, in a junior match, whether that's two and a half,
Speaker:three seconds you might have after you're served at the ball's coming back,
Speaker:you just got to get ready, and you've got to be thinking about that immediately
Speaker:after you hit the ball.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:So you've got a couple of things that you can bring up real quick.
Speaker:Footspeed.
Speaker:Physicality.
Speaker:If you're not that athletic, don't feel that fast.
Speaker:Sometimes it might be perception of not reading the other players' record.
Speaker:I spend a lot of lessons at the lower level and the highest level.
Speaker:I've seen players in top 100, top 200 struggle,
Speaker:because they're like, "Oh, my time is a little off."
Speaker:From a man, look at the player's record.
Speaker:You know, they think instinctively they're already doing it.
Speaker:And sometimes you just, and you're just watching the ball.
Speaker:But by watching the ball, you're missing out on those milliseconds.
Speaker:You get to the feet that make the decide early,
Speaker:that make you see something quicker.
Speaker:And there's all that processing time, again, the word time.
Speaker:Processing time.
Speaker:If your waiting for the ball to come over there too late,
Speaker:I mean, by the time the ball gets you,
Speaker:you've got to make decision, get your feet in position,
Speaker:hit the target, and recover.
Speaker:And you can't do all that if the ball's just like the,
Speaker:then the decision is coming.
Speaker:It's like, "Boy, I can see all my shots, but oh my god,
Speaker:balls are already hit."
Speaker:So time is everything in this game.
Speaker:And as you can see, it's a big, detailed conversation
Speaker:that takes a lot to cover in 10 minutes.
Speaker:But probably the other one I wanted to let everyone really understand too is,
Speaker:we've heard a lot of conversation about when you're rallying,
Speaker:you should hit plenty of clearance over the net and lower the net.
Speaker:And clearance over the net, obviously,
Speaker:would give you a opponent more time.
Speaker:But what you can do is use clearance over the net to take away time and use the court
Speaker:to then take away time on the next one.
Speaker:So just understand there are ways taking away time without losing your ratio over the net.
Speaker:And the other one I wanted to let everybody know too is that
Speaker:there's a really good one.
Speaker:Oh, Vic braided.
Speaker:The legend of all legends, and if this coach is listening right now,
Speaker:if they don't know that guy, they need a clock on the chin.
Speaker:Because that guy is a legend.
Speaker:And what he proved back in,
Speaker:geez, like in the 2000s, he proved with a recording device on his eyes and his face and everything
Speaker:that the time from baseline to service line,
Speaker:we couldn't keep up with the pace of the ball that's being hit between the strings and the power of the racket.
Speaker:So the reason why we lost the coming to the net game is because we couldn't get there faster now.
Speaker:And so between rackets or racket to get from baseline to service line,
Speaker:I mean, you know, the Sam Presley is the pack cash days, we're hitting a low volley.
Speaker:The amount of spin, the amount of time, the amount, it just was too tough.
Speaker:So what we're seeing as a transition in the last five years is people getting faster.
Speaker:They're learning to rally with height of the net and then take away height of the net and then find
Speaker:their their pounds. They're waiting two or three shots to go in. They're setting it up to go in
Speaker:in two or three versus hit and go, hit and go. And jog of it, absolute legend about it.
Speaker:So it wasn't a doubt, but I think jog of it just really figured out I caught the opportunity.
Speaker:Well, it's just inside the baseline and he will work it, work it, work it, move a little closer,
Speaker:flatten out the next one and then he moves back a little, which gives the opponent note like
Speaker:the impression that he's not coming in and then he bounces in on his off he goes. So it's,
Speaker:yeah, anyway, I don't know, hopefully that helps, but big brain improved that we didn't have the time
Speaker:to get in quick enough. Oh, the last one real quick, if you don't have much time,
Speaker:you don't have much foot speed and you're trying to figure out how to take away time,
Speaker:then look for the opportunities when your opponent's not hurting and just find your way in.
Speaker:Hit a volley halfway in the middle of the court. They say it's no men's land. It's not no men's land
Speaker:if you can do something with it, you know, and if you watch the days where we grew up in the 90s,
Speaker:80s and 90s, we were hitting low volleys inside the service line, which I'll hit curious land.
Speaker:It curiously, if you can call it whatever you want. I mean, these days too, these days too,
Speaker:people can hit a swing in forehand or swing it back in. We didn't do that back in those days. We
Speaker:hit a volley. So like, I don't know, I think if you feel like you're restricted because of his
Speaker:pali, you're not restricted. All you've got to do is literally see your opportunities, come in,
Speaker:take away time and then go a little further. So just be like, you brought up a good point.
Speaker:Be split step, be ready. Don't feel like you've got to run all the way to the net. Just run,
Speaker:split step when the person's ready, take away time. Come in a little further, you know,
Speaker:so anyway, there's my thing on time and you can tell I get told about it forever.
Speaker:I love it. We'll do it again. We'll do a follow up Justin Yo, Australian and Puerto Rico. Thanks
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